We’re Missing the Big Picture on the HMB

wellness wizard

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Hello,

I hope this post finds everyone well. I am writing in regards to some key elements I don’t see in discussions that I feel contribute GREATLY to finding the perfect donor. The reason for the lack of appearance probably stems from the lack of scientific literature, but as we all know science is a slow, meticulous, beautiful thing and it cannot be rushed. One day man kind will look back on the medical practices of today and laugh. It may be at our expense, but hey… what can we really do !?! Well, a start would be to focus on the missing links of the perfect donor; the perfect donor will have had a lifelong diet free of hydrogenated oils, refined sugars, antibiotic/ steroid treated meats, pesticide free produce, smog free air, microplastic free water, a limited exposure to heavy metals, will be nearly parasite free (no one is 100%), will have a lifetime of exercise under their belt, will have been born of natural childbirth, will have had a lifetime of adequate sun exposure, a lifetime of wearing predominately cotton or wool clothing, will have had completed several fasts in excess of 5 days through their lifetime, they will be someone who has had limited exposure to drugs and alcohol, grew up in a smoke free home, grew up spending adequate time outdoors barefoot, will have had limited exposure to technology that creates substantial EMF, and they will be someone who knows how to breathe.
…. Now you might be saying wow that’s a long list… my answer to that would be yes you’re right, and that’s why finding a perfect donor has been very difficult. Essentially the entire population world wide has been disqualified at this point. It’s a shame, but it’s the truth. You also might be confused on how some of those listed points contribute to stool quality and the microbiome, feel free to comment on any of the points and I will dive into a more detailed response. For the sake of time and keeping my first post short I’m not going to touch on everything at the moment. I can assure you though all factors on that list hold significant importance regardless of if the science is there yet or not.

The human body is a marvelous machine. Many say man was made in the image of god. If that’s the case the big man upstairs must of had a pretty solid gut biome. The wonders we are capable of may be limitless, but unfortunately as a collective we are drifting further away from our potential. Communities and projects like this give me hope. Again, I hope this post finds everyone well and am looking forward to more in depth discussion.

Best regards,
 
Your only mention of antibiotics is "antibiotic/ steroid treated meats". Why is that? And no mention of breastfeeding?
Excuse me, I wrote this post quickly while in the sauna and I definitely missed some critical points! Some additional points to add to the list would be; they will have been breastfed, the mother breastfeeding them will have adhered to the entire list as well, they will have been never treated with antibiotics, they will have never taken over the counter medication like ibuprofen, Tylenol, heartburn medicine, etc. regularly, they will have never taken prescription medication regularly such as anti-anxiety, pain, cholesterol, depression ssri, stimulants, steroids, etc. , they will regularly drink hot herbal teas brewed from whole leaves, they will have a diet where at least 20% of caloric intake is fiber, they will have lived a life where all of their cook-wear and food containers have been glass or cast iron, and they will someone who has slept 7-10 hours a night their entire life, and they will probably be someone who bee-keeps and gardens barefoot.

Ultimately the list can go on and on. To be honest it gets a little overwhelming but ultimately it makes sense. As we have industrialized as a species we have moved further and further away from the harmonization we had with nature. All we can do now is try to replicate it.
 
Excuse me, I wrote this post quickly while in the sauna and I definitely missed some critical points! Some additional points to add to the list would be; they will have been breastfed, the mother breastfeeding them will have adhered to the entire list as well, they will have been never treated with antibiotics, they will have never taken over the counter medication like ibuprofen, Tylenol, heartburn medicine, etc. regularly, they will have never taken prescription medication regularly such as anti-anxiety, pain, cholesterol, depression ssri, stimulants, steroids, etc. , they will regularly drink hot herbal teas brewed from whole leaves, they will have a diet where at least 20% of caloric intake is fiber, they will have lived a life where all of their cook-wear and food containers have been glass or cast iron, and they will someone who has slept 7-10 hours a night their entire life, and they will probably be someone who bee-keeps and gardens barefoot.

Ultimately the list can go on and on. To be honest it gets a little overwhelming but ultimately it makes sense. As we have industrialized as a species we have moved further and further away from the harmonization we had with nature. All we can do now is try to replicate it.
I mean it really blows my mind to think that all creatures that walk this earth are composed of predominately bacteria and fungal cells, and on a larger scale all ecosystems are kept in check and maintained by these same bacteria and fungi. It’s funny to think that order and balance is kept in this world by these little guys, not nation states, but it’s the truth! My point is that our connection and relationship with these little guys is much more complex than we could even imagine. And everything we do in some way, shape, or form ultimately affects this relationship. We as a species still have a lot to learn about this relationship, but a good place to start is just choosing to live more holistically.
 
@Michael Harrop going back to this old post. To be honest I think this list only begins to scratch the surface of what a decent donor is going to look like. At this point I’m not sure of one exists.

What interests me is the idea of people resetting their microbiome though. I do believe through intensive measures and a regimented lifestyle, an individual can drastically improve their microbiome and in term their health.

Nothing good comes easy, and it is obviously easier said than done. I do wholeheartedly believe we can heal our gut more than the science says we can. It takes consistency, discipline, and dedication but it can be done.

The problem lies in that the 99% would rather not make the necessary changes, or in that they literally cannot afford to. It is a troublesome situation to say the least.

Again, I am hopeful initiatives like this will slowly steer the general public in th right direction through!
 
I don't think there is currently any such thing as "resetting the microbiome". Also, nothing comes close to FMT in regards to "improving or altering the microbiome".
 
Maybe “resetting” is the wrong word, but it’s not far off. It’s very obvious that routine FMTs in combination with intensive measures and a regimented lifestyle would provide the best results.

Again, the sciences is miles behind so let’s try to reason through it with common sense. Let’s say you take someone with an extremely unhealthy microbiome and provide them with a high quality FMT, or routine FMTs, if the person chooses to live the same unhealthy lifestyle, even if the FMT is a success the microbiome will eventually fail again. The good bacteria cannnot survive and thrive in an environment that does not allow them too. You can reintroduce them with an FM, but sustaining them is completely different and requires lifestyle changes.

Additionally, you could take someone with an extremely unhealthy microbiome. Place them on a calorie restricted diet where they are only allowed to eat organic vegetables raw or fermented, organic green tea, rice hulls, and PFAS free water. They would also be subjected to monthly fasts of 72 and 48 hours. Add daily exercise on top of this, and within one year this persons microbiome would be unrecognizable.

After a year they could begin to implement more to their diet, but continue to follow it at its core. I’d make the argument that this person’s gut heath would be substantially better in 5 years, that that on an individual who received several FMTs 5 years ago and then continues to live an unhealthy lifestyle.

New and healthy bacteria can be reintroduced to the gut, but it take time, consistency, and dedication. The microbiome is a living breathing ecosystem. And like all ecosystems it can be influenced for the better or the worse.
 
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