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SFBayFMT5 wrote on Michael Harrop's profile.
How does pricing work for untested donors (which I see some people have tried)? Do they charge less than fully activated donors, given the greater risk involved? Is it possible that if people agree to pay to have a donor tested, that then the cost of orders is reduced for them given their commitment to support the activation of the donor?
SFBayFMT5 wrote on zal63's profile.
Did you see my reply to your experience report on the forums? I'm particularly interested in your experiences with the currently active donors FL-RS-1997 and UT-AW-1998, in other words whether one of those two was significantly superior/inferior to the other.
SFBayFMT5 wrote on coldcast's profile.
I saw your post about which criteria make a difference when choosing a donor. I wrote my own thoughts on that here--though like yours, they are based on theorizing/hypotheses and not on actual experience.

https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/the-evidence-and-rationale-supporting-our-stool-donor-criteria-2022-hu.131/post-834


Actual experience regarding these factors may be hard to come by, as most FMT providers don't provide ANY demographic information about donors at all--it's impossible to even tell if you got the same or a different donor as someone else who reported an experience with that same provider. That's the great thing about HMorg that sets them apart from other providers, donor characteristics and interview responses are available to recipients.

However, aside from Michael Harrop himself who has tried many donors, there aren't that many people who have tried enough to clearly be able to test hypotheses (and even if they have, such is difficult to tell from the results spreadsheet due to inconsistent recipient identifiers--an issue that I posted about on the forum before). That gets me to the other thing I wanted to point out, which really was the main purpose of this message--despite how it looks from the "orders" page of HMorg, there are ONLY two donors (one male, FL-RS-1997, and one female, UT-AW-1998) who are currently willing to provide stool AND are tested for pathogens. All the other "current" donors in the spreadsheet have not been tested, which explains why there are so many fewer experience reports for them--only brave souls who accept untested donors have tried those.

To be fair to HMorg, you will be freely informed of this fact if and when you decide to place an order--however it would be helpful to know this ahead of time, as it will likely give you a much better idea of the options you have to choose from. It certainly did for me. I have been told that two other potential donors, one of each sex, are in the process of being "activated" (the term HMorg uses to refer to the blood and stool pathogen testing), though I have no idea how long this will take. To see these you would need to request the longer donor list, which I won't link to as Michael Harrop doesn't want it shared publicly, which I respect. If you ask he will send it. I WILL say though that NEITHER of these is among the people in the spreadsheet who actually have experiences posted about them. It seems none of those will ever be tested unless some of us customers agree to come together and pay to have it done.
SFBayFMT5 wrote on Michael Harrop's profile.
Two quite specific questions about HMorg specifically (feel free to move to forum if there's a better place for it):
1) How does the shipping cost compare to the cost of capsules/stool? In other words, how many capsules worth of money can be saved for each extra shipment that is eliminated by combining it with another (provided all shipments are from the same donor, such that combining is even possible)?

2) Any information on diet of donors? I have a dairy allergy and if I recall correctly, OpenBiome donors eat a hypo-allergenic diet prior to donation. My allergy isn't life threatening or anything so it's not so much a safety issue, but still, exposure to dairy and foods I'm sensitive to causes flares--so first if there are two roughly equivalent donors but one eats large amounts of foods I'm sensitive to, it might be wise to avoid that donor, and secondly, even if exposure is unavoidable it's good to know so that I can better separate food reactions (which are likely to be short term) from microbiome effects (which are likely to be more persistent).
Boostbros wrote on wellness wizard's profile.
ok define what a wellness wizard is i,m curious

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