Incoming trump admin with RFK signals new start for FDA Healthcare system 

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Hi all, thought this recent development might be of interest to the FMT community, as it is in the unfortunate position of having no proper FDA designation.

As I'm sure everyone is aware, Trump is the incoming President of the United States and he is bringing with him Robert F. Kennedy Jr, a controversial figure in the health world, primarially for his stances on vaccines. More importantly, though, Bobby appears to be amenable to 'alternative' health interventions in a broad sense. In this tweet he mentions "psychadelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermetcin, hydroxychlorquine, vitamins, clean foods, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals... and any thing else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma".

FMT clearly falls under this category and I imagine RFK would be sympathetic to the concept and the plight we have in a no-mans-land of legality.

He also mentions in an interview that he "plans to clear out ENTIRE departments at the Food & Drug Administration (FDA)". link here

Regardless of your opinions on the adminstration, there may never be a better time to try to get visibility on FMTs at the federal/FDA level.
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In this video on RFK's YT channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg2PpeO-clk, Nicole Shanahan, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s running mate, says he's the only candidate that is serious about chronic disease, and she is too and that's why she supports him.

I was very heartened to hear this, and then disappointed when she lists the main culprits and only 1/3 is correct (environmental pollutants, electromagnetic pollution, vaccines).

Her kid has autism. In 2019, she established a private foundation, Bia-Echo, that promotes research to lengthen the human reproductive lifespan. https://biaecho.org/project/nicole-shanahan/ - 1-page site with no contact.

I tried to contact her on Linkedin unsuccessfully.

In my opinion, the anti-vax stuff is a red herring that distracts from the real causes. It's extremely frustrating to see notable people like RFK focus so much on vaccines and virtually never mention the gut microbiome or FMT.

I don't know how to contact RFK (I've tried tweeting to him in the past), but I'm planning on driving to DC to protest at the capitol. If anyone knows of a way to petition RFK about this issue, please let me know.

EDIT: I just saw a clip where RFK says his main goal, which is supported by Trump, is to end the chronic disease crisis, and that Trump wants to see major progress within 2 years. We really need a way to contact him. FMT is absolutely the most promising intervention to achieve that goal.
 
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I agree with your point that alternative medicines should be looked at more but eliminating vaccines is NOT the right direction.

Do you know why there is a mention of HCQ? Also, the side effects of HCQ though rare are bad (i.e. blindness) when on it you have to get regular eye exams and it is known to cause pigmentation in the skin. I thought metformin was the new trendy drug for longevity.
 
In my opinion, the anti-vax stuff is a red herring that distracts from the real causes. It's extremely frustrating to see notable people like RFK focus so much on vaccines and virtually never mention the gut microbiome or FMT.
I agree -- I think he has the right attitude but vaccine stuff is not the correct path.
I don't know how to contact RFK (I've tried tweeting to him in the past), but I'm planning on driving to DC to protest at the capitol. If anyone knows of a way to petition RFK about this issue, please let me know.
That's definitely the question - I imagine reaching him directly will be extremely hard, and trying to pitch him on something like FMT would be harder. Might be more effective to contact someone in his circle with a smaller following, though it's hard to say who those people might be.

Until things shake out and we know what his exact position will be in the Trump admin, it might be hard to know the correct course.

The main thing I am thinking about is the way of framing this for people in the way that is most convicining. I think a high level approach might be best, eg: "The FDA currently does not have a legal framework for holistic treatments that can improve general health, and kills the sale of such treatments by treating them as regular pharmaseuticals that must be approved condition by condition. For example....(then describing FMT/FMT sales)". He mentions therapeutic peptides, which are kinda in a similar purgatory.

Anyway, I will try try to keep up with any developments re: RFK and hopefully there will be people we can try to contact.
 
Someone sent me this:

You could consider making a post there about FMT, or holistic treatments and give FMT as an example. You could use or reference this summary: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/the-fda-and-fmt-regulation-part-2-jul-2024-humanmicrobes-org-i-met-wit.520/#post-1370

I'll likely be away for a few months in DC.
 
I don't think it's the best idea to make what is essentially a duplicate, and looks similar to spam. I think commenting in the first thread and sharing it on social media encouraging other people to vote, is the better tactic.

AU's regulations are not good at all BTW. The TGA went against much of the feedback they received.
 
Michael Harrop at Senator Bill Cassidy's office I'm still in DC and have been visiting Senator Bill Cassidy's (GI doctor, head of Health Committee) office most days.

RFK has two hearings coming up at 10 am Eastern on Wednesday and Thursday. https://www.senate.gov/committees/hearings_meetings.htm

Senate hearings:​

I was watching Democracy Now and saw people protesting at the Senate hearings and getting dragged out by the police. I asked the police what they do to those people and they said they basically just fine them $50 and kick them out of the building for the day.

Anyone can attend the public hearings if you get a ticket from your Congressman's office. I think I will definitely try to attend RFK's hearing. I really don't like making a ruckus, but I dislike being disabled more. So if shouting something and getting fined has a chance to help I'll do it.

Let me know if you guys have suggestions of what to say. At the moment all I can think of is "Ask him about antibiotics. Ask him about the microbiome. Ask him about fecal microbiota transplants -- an existing treatment for chronic disease".

I usually wake up after 10 am, and my already low brain function gets even worse if I don't get enough sleep. So I don't think it will be possible for me to make it before 10 am. I'm not sure if they'll let me in when it's already started, but I'll try. I checked prior hearings and they last anywhere from 2-5 hours. It's possible it could be over by the time I get there.

It would be great if other people were willing to attend and protest.

I'm considering yelling out something along the lines of "Bernie Sanders is a fraud! He focuses on drug prices while ignoring a treatment that would let people not need the drugs at all!".



5 key health topics to watch at RFK Jr.'s Senate confirmation hearings https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/5-key-health-topics-to-watch-at-rfk-jr-s-senate-confirmation-hearings/ar-AA1xT38n

RFK Jr. Wants to 'Make America Healthy Again' — Here's What That Means for You https://www.foodandwine.com/robert-kennedy-make-america-healthy-again-plan-explained-8746531

RFK Jr.'s plan for changing the U.S. food and drug system https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rfk-jrs-plan-changing-us-food-drug-system-2024-11-15/



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I woke up early and rushed here by 10 am but there's a huge line and it was full. A ton of RFK supporters with MAHA shirts showed up.

I talked to some of them and explained I was trying to get access to an existing treatment and they didn't care. They said they were not part of any online group but rather a continuation of the RFK election campaign. Some of them had "AV 24", which is an RFK superpac.

Fox News was there and wanted to interview them but didn't care about what I was doing, despite me mentioning that Bernie snubbed me.

An interesting article indicating Senator Cassidy might be opposed to RFK. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/01/29/nation/this-senate-republican-won-praise-his-questioning-rfk-jr-first-hearing-hell-be-key-second-one/
 
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I woke up early and rushed here by 10 am but there's a huge line and it was full. A ton of RFK supporters with MAHA shirts showed up.

I talked to some of them and explained I was trying to get access to an existing treatment and they didn't care. They said they were not part of any online group but rather a continuation of the RFK election campaign. Some of them had "AV 24", which is an RFK superpac.

Fox News was there and wanted to interview them but didn't care about what I was doing, despite me mentioning that Bernie snubbed me.

An interesting article indicating Senator Cassidy might be opposed to RFK.
That sucks you weren't able to get in. Sorry you woke up early and everything. Same with Fox News but I'm not surprised. Almost no one seems interested in this issue which is so bizarre. I don't fully understand it myself. I tried opening the article but it cost $. I did read that Bill Cassidy accepted campaign donations from several big pharma CEOs in 2023 though, so it makes sense he'd be opposed to RFK Jr if he is being influenced by them.
 
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