Michael Harrop
Well-known member
There are two reddit threads that show up in search results that are full of misinformation. Since reddit is a "free-for-all" where anyone can anonymously write anything they want, there is nothing that can be done about it other than to create threads about them and hope they show up during searches.
The Human Microbes project actually started out on reddit. But that history and useful information are not what show up in search results.
I've spent the past decade trying to educate people about this situation, and have put out a ton of information. But naturally, redditors would rather wildly speculate and spread misinformation instead of reviewing it and educating themselves and others.
The first thread is on the "scams" subreddit, and all the top comments are people saying completely false things with utmost confidence. This is extremely common on reddit. What is similarly common is people with an agenda doing it deliberately. I'll address the claims directly in the comments below.
This is a big reason why the people involved left reddit. The vast majority of what's on reddit is untrustworthy and misinformation. There's a saying that "you realize how bad the information on reddit is once you see someone talk about a subject you're well-informed on". Anyone can anonymously say anything they want on reddit, and thus, reddit is frequently used by people with bad intentions to spread misinformation & disinformation. Especially now that it frequently shows up at the top of search results.
This brings us to the second reddit thread on another microbiome sub. The OP is "quoting" a review that doesn't exist, and the comments are full of a group of scammers who are retaliating for exposing them. The thread title is mimicking one that was made about them. https://humanmicrobiome.info/where-to-get-fmt/#microbiomaorg
Controlling/manipulating search results is also a big business. Those same scammers purchased a fake review on a "for hire" website that also shows up in the top search results: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/review-of-microbioma-org-2022.117/post-2582
Social media websites are poor sources of information for these reasons. You have to put in effort to find trustworthy information these days. In this case, here are some things you can do:
1. You can review the website yourself and compare it to what people are saying about it. Most people should then be able to determine that the reddit comments are nonsense. This may take more time than reading a few reddit comments.
2. Look for places where the people involved communicate publicly. In this case, there is a detailed blog, and a microbiome forum. There are also social media pages where this has been directly addressed.
If you have additional questions or concerns, you're welcome to ask them in this thread.
3. If it's a scam, what is the purpose of the scam? How does the scam work? Is there supporting evidence for or against?
Credit to the OP, they did specifically ask that, but the people concluding that "it must be a scam" offered nothing but wild speculation.
Besides the website and blog, there are videos and social media posts that explain exactly what Human Microbes is trying to do and why it's offering so much money for poop.
Also consider what the project is. It is a patient (at times a group of patients) taking on a hundred-billion-dollar industry. There are many people who have a strong financial interest in seeing such a project fail.
There is more information about this, and HumanMicrobes.org's history, near the bottom of this forum post: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/rules-info-submission-guidelines-features.20/
Every person who wants a cure for chronic diseases to be available should read this and take action: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/the-fda-and-fmt-regulation-part-2-jul-2024-humanmicrobes-org-i-met-wit.520/post-1370
The Human Microbes project actually started out on reddit. But that history and useful information are not what show up in search results.
I've spent the past decade trying to educate people about this situation, and have put out a ton of information. But naturally, redditors would rather wildly speculate and spread misinformation instead of reviewing it and educating themselves and others.
The first thread is on the "scams" subreddit, and all the top comments are people saying completely false things with utmost confidence. This is extremely common on reddit. What is similarly common is people with an agenda doing it deliberately. I'll address the claims directly in the comments below.
This is a big reason why the people involved left reddit. The vast majority of what's on reddit is untrustworthy and misinformation. There's a saying that "you realize how bad the information on reddit is once you see someone talk about a subject you're well-informed on". Anyone can anonymously say anything they want on reddit, and thus, reddit is frequently used by people with bad intentions to spread misinformation & disinformation. Especially now that it frequently shows up at the top of search results.
This brings us to the second reddit thread on another microbiome sub. The OP is "quoting" a review that doesn't exist, and the comments are full of a group of scammers who are retaliating for exposing them. The thread title is mimicking one that was made about them. https://humanmicrobiome.info/where-to-get-fmt/#microbiomaorg
Controlling/manipulating search results is also a big business. Those same scammers purchased a fake review on a "for hire" website that also shows up in the top search results: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/review-of-microbioma-org-2022.117/post-2582
Social media websites are poor sources of information for these reasons. You have to put in effort to find trustworthy information these days. In this case, here are some things you can do:
1. You can review the website yourself and compare it to what people are saying about it. Most people should then be able to determine that the reddit comments are nonsense. This may take more time than reading a few reddit comments.
2. Look for places where the people involved communicate publicly. In this case, there is a detailed blog, and a microbiome forum. There are also social media pages where this has been directly addressed.
If you have additional questions or concerns, you're welcome to ask them in this thread.
3. If it's a scam, what is the purpose of the scam? How does the scam work? Is there supporting evidence for or against?
Credit to the OP, they did specifically ask that, but the people concluding that "it must be a scam" offered nothing but wild speculation.
Besides the website and blog, there are videos and social media posts that explain exactly what Human Microbes is trying to do and why it's offering so much money for poop.
Also consider what the project is. It is a patient (at times a group of patients) taking on a hundred-billion-dollar industry. There are many people who have a strong financial interest in seeing such a project fail.
There is more information about this, and HumanMicrobes.org's history, near the bottom of this forum post: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/rules-info-submission-guidelines-features.20/
Every person who wants a cure for chronic diseases to be available should read this and take action: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/the-fda-and-fmt-regulation-part-2-jul-2024-humanmicrobes-org-i-met-wit.520/post-1370