Is a lot of probiotics the same as FMT? Anyone try VSL 3? I’m trying a high dose (around 230 billion CFU daily)

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Prodigyev

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I need something to fix my damn dysbiosis and leaky gut. Had anyone fixed dysbiosis with a lot of probiotics? Is a lot of probiotics the same as FMT??
 
Michael Harrop said:
Not even close. Probiotics can be, and often are, highly disruptive. https://humanmicrobiome.info/probiotic-guide/

In large part, the opposite of FMT.
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Ok…..well, I guess I’ll use my brothers stool, as I have no other option. I don’t have a lot of money to buy from a high quality donor at some hospital.

He is below 30, in decent health, and has good poop (type 3 and 4 on the Bristol stool chart). I’m so bad, I’ll literally just do anything at this point.


And FMT might not even restore my gut?? Man I’m really scared….

I’m in such bad health.
 
Michael Harrop said:
If you take FMT that lackadaisically, you're likely to get worse. What you listed is not how you select & screen a donor.

https://humanmicrobiome.info/fmt/


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There isn’t getting much worse man. I can’t live properly. If I stay like this much longer, the gut inflammation will almost certainly begin to cause cancers and what not.

I’ll just have to use my brother who seems like a decently healthy guy. I’ll probably document how it goes. I’m cooked bro lmaoo
 
Prodigyev said:
Ok…..well, I guess I’ll use my brothers stool, as I have no other option. I don’t have a lot of money to buy from a high quality donor at some hospital.

He is below 30, in decent health, and has good poop (type 3 and 4 on the Bristol stool chart). I’m so bad, I’ll literally just do anything at this point.


And FMT might not even restore my gut?? Man I’m really scared….

I’m in such bad health.
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Trust me, I'm in the same situasjon as you. FMT is my last and only hope, before eventually putting an end to this suffering.
 
The probiotic I had some-what effect from was L.reuteri. However it obviously was no cure, maybe I felt 3-4% better overall. Make sure it does not contain any oligosaccharides (FOS).
 
Prodigyev said:
There isn’t getting much worse man. I can’t live properly. If I stay like this much longer, the gut inflammation will almost certainly begin to cause cancers and what not.

I’ll just have to use my brother who seems like a decently healthy guy. I’ll probably document how it goes. I’m cooked bro lmaoo
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If you're suffering from some autoimmune condition you can somewhat manage your symptoms through diet. You just have to figure out what food you can't tolerate.

The easiest way to do that is through an elimination diet. For example you can try just eating plain chicken and rice for a day (low histamine, oxolates, fibre etc in chicken and rice, but no guarantees that you'll be able to tolerate it). If that makes you feel better you start adding other food back into your diet one item at a time until you get a bad reaction. That way you'll know what food you're intolerant to and you just keep it out of your diet to manage your symptoms.

This is how I manage my own inflammation and it seems to be the best solution until we figure out how to fully correct a dysbiotic gut.
 
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